Now This Is A Zatanna!

[measle]

I wasn't defending Zee's honor, I was defending my honor.  I don't want to be in that dudes camp, he makes us look bad.  Not all fanboys are pathetic, socially inept nerds that rub their pee-pees on partially clad action figures.

I agree with John that slash-fic is pathetic and sometime infuriating, but I think it's more to do with people shitting on what was good and pure in your childhood and not so much about defending the honor of a fictional character....because that would be equally pathetic.

[Paradise Bar]

The dudes that do those custom naked wonder womans always remind me of that twisted fuck R. Crumb trying to whack off  and have sex with a Bugs Bunny cut-out after he swallows that string and flosses his throat and ass simultaneously. 

Hater, your imagination and wordplay are never less than entertaining.  I salute you, sir.

 

[Hater]

Dude-- whatever I am as a bizarre figure storyteller-- PARADISE BAR came first.  It actually inspired me to start my fumettis when I saw the cover of some fake Tabloid you did where you were outting "gay superheroes" and Konner Superboy with the Caesar cut was on the cover.

And I agree with whoever said that some of the early Twisted Toyfares WERE funny.  But they got so lame-- that trumping them now is like shooting fish in a barrel.  Twisted Toyfare is SO not relevant any more.  That mag is so beholden to the fucking toy companies that with their parodies and commentary-- they can't take on current events in comics and action figures.  You may disagree with my take on things-- but DIRTY DOOSHBAG has tackled everything from CIVIL WAR to NIGHTWING'S proposed "death," to "52," to Didio replacing beloved icons with tokens and any other shit my bi-polar brain can think of...

So in short Sappho-- I salute you, bro.   

[John Moores]

I agree with John that slash-fic is pathetic and sometime infuriating, but I think it's more to do with people shitting on what was good and pure in your childhood and not so much about defending the honor of a fictional character....because that would be equally pathetic.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[Hater]

Ah-- you and Mease agree too much dammit! 

Mease-- tell John he's full of shit on something...

[John Moores]

He certainly doesn't agree that Garcia-Lopez is better than Adams, and also that Zep aren't a patch on the Who...

[measle]

I don't  because Adams was the first to really bring realism to comic art.  Anatomy. backgrounds, etc he elevated comic art.  There may be better artists since, but he gets the nod because he was the first.  It's like Stevie Ray Vaughn and Hendrix.  No matter how good Stevie became, Hendrix was better because he did it first.

As for The Who and Zep.  I don't know what to say.  Every rock band since Zeppelin has been influenced by the band to some degree or other.  They're more influential to rock than any other band.  Plus, up until IV there has never been a better lead singer than Robert Plant.  Think Immigrant Song, I can't quit you baby, Dazed and Confused....fucking amazing voice.  And Jimmy Page...man they were solid from top to bottom.

[John Moores]

I don't  because Adams was the first to really bring realism to comic art.  Anatomy. backgrounds, etc he elevated comic art.  There may be better artists since, but he gets the nod because he was the first.  It's like Stevie Ray Vaughn and Hendrix.  No matter how good Stevie became, Hendrix was better because he did it first.

I think the student can surpass the master...not if the master is Hendrix though.

As for The Who and Zep.  I don't know what to say.  Every rock band since Zeppelin has been influenced by the band to some degree or other.  They're more influential to rock than any other band. 

Pfft. The Beatles and the Stones are way more influential. The Jeff Beck group and Cream got there first with Zep's format, so any influence from Zep should go to them. Zep were just the messengers.

Plus, up until IV there has never been a better lead singer than Robert Plant. 

BLASPHEMY!

Think Immigrant Song, I can't quit you baby, Dazed and Confused....fucking amazing voice.  And Jimmy Page...man they were solid from top to bottom.

No facility at vocal harmonies, at times turgid lyrics....

[measle]

Refer to argument one.  I came first, therefore I'm best (right). 

Shoot man, just about any band that got it's start in the 60's had lyrics full of self-importance, you'll have to throw out an awful lot of bands out with that bathwater. 

The Beatles definitely influenced those that came after, but I'd be hard-pressed to hear much of their influence in rock from the late 70's on, at least no where near the level of Zeppelin knocks offs that came after.  Almost every band that I've seen or heard interviews from has cited Zep as a major influence or the major influence, the Beatles and Stones are in there to be sure, but not as often as Zep.  No, I'd have to say the two biggest influences on  bands in the last 25 or 30 years or so would be Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin.  Sabbath on the metal bands like Maiden and Metallica and Zep on the more mainstream rock bands.

Zep was inlfuenced by others to be sure, all bands are influenced or inspired by someone, but when Led Zeppelin ! came out in 1969, it was quite a bit different than what most other bands were doing at the time.  Even to this day there isn't a retro hint to the album at all.  Whole Lotta Love or Dazed and Confused sound just as modern and relevant as anything.  The only thing that dates the band in the early days is the use of the B3, which was used only occasionally.


It's all rendered moot anyway, because when Little Arrows hit, music was forever changed and Zep and the Stones were relegated to the dustbins of pop culture.

[John Moores]

 

[Hater]

Excellent points.  Of course-- it has nothing to do with SLUTTANA-- but I think we beat that subject to death anyway.

So... Who's got any good HUMAN FLY jokes?

[Gardner Grayle]

I saw the whole thing linked from AFI.  I see what ya' mean about the skeezy aspect of this custom.  The rest of the pics including the thong in the butt crack shot was disturbing.

[Spectre2001]

Heres pics of an auction on Ebay of a JLU Talia figure.

Not sure when she wore this costume.









I have made it my lifes work now to bring you tacky female action figures.

 

Spec

[John Moores]

Some of these guys are deeply, deeply sad.

[Hater]

I'd argue that one's even more bizarre than the SLUTTANNA. At least she seemed to be an attempt at a realistic Superheroine that's in a HO outfit that nearly reveals her naughty bits.

But this is the same thing-- only ANIMATED style.  So it's like a sub-fetish of the guys that make nudie figures. There's guys making ARTIST-SPECIFIC and ANIMATED STYLE nudie figs apparently.   Again, I gotta think most of these fellas are on an express train to R. Crumbtown.

Part of the reason they make me laugh is I picture the grinning loon, all excited as he makes it.  I try not to dwell on what he does after the figures finished.  I think Mease posted a description that sounded about right.

I guess the other thing is that a lot of the whack off figure customizers seem to take it so SERIOUSLY.  They've really gone into a bizarre fantasy fan boy hypersexed suburb of QWARD.  They never say-- I always thought Batgirl was a tart-- so I made this gag figure.  It's more likely ""this is Batgirl in a THONG...heh heh heh... Isn't she BUENO? heh heh heh..."

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